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Charlie Bradshaw Smith

January 4, 2016 by crowbro 1 Comment

My grandfather. My dad was born in Paris, Texas so I assume my grandfather was either from Texas but likely Oklahoma. He was a welder and traveled to oil fields to work. We had the registry papers years ago when he died, but a malicious aunt who refused her native heritage destroyed them. That to say my great grandfather should be on the roles at least.

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  1. jsmith says

    January 8, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    You’d have to provide more information to confirm individual identity or family unit. The surname Smith is so common that it normally requires extra precautions so that we don’t trace the wrong lineage. Yes, barking up the wrong tree happens all too frequently with Smith, Johnson, or other common surnames.

    However, because the Bradshaw middle name is somewhat unique and he was associated with specific locations (Texas,and Oklahoma) I was able to find a Charles Bradshaw Smith born in 1906 in Tahlequah, Oklahoma. This Charley Smith died in 1966 in Lamar County, Texas. He also moved around a bit, working as a welder, found in Odessa, Texas, and Hulbert, Oklahoma, and his family lived in Paris, Texas, etc. So, he might be a good candidate anyway. This fellow married a “Bessie” (but I have no further info beyond a first name of wife).

    http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=karebear&id=I19601

    He had a sister named Retha and another named Jewel, and an older brother named Manuel.

    Is this the person you are looking for by chance?

    Just in case, I’ll add this info. Just take it with a grain of salt. The family was living in Tahlequah, Oklahoma in the early 1900s, and that is the capital of the Cherokee Nation. But, they were White settlers, not tribal members. Charlie’s parents were John Martin Smith and Eular Lenora Nodine. The Smith line is harder to trace, but the Nodine lineage goes back to pre-Revolutionary era.

    Also, one might lose individual records (or an aunt can purposefully destroy or even accidentally lose them), but tribal records are centralized and all tribal members that were quote-unquote “registered” will be found in the Dawes Roll. These records are extant and easily accessible. Even if they started the process but didn’t finish or were rejected, they’d still have an application that would be found in the national archives.

    You can find John, Eular, Charley (and his siblings) on the 1910 Census. His older brother Manuel was born in 1902 in Oklahoma. So, that means they were in the Territory right at the time of Dawes Enumeration. John and Eular would have been about age 20-21 at the time of this process. And their son Manuel would either be listed on the regular dawes roll or on the Minors By Blood. Charley was born after the Dawes Rolls were closed, so he wouldn’t be listed on the Final Roll. But, if he was a “registered” Cherokee, that means his parents and older siblings should be found.

    There are three John M. Smiths found in the Dawes records. This was 1.) a man married to a woman named Myrtle, listed as a Parent of a James Smith (married to an Ida R.); 2.) an Intermarried White married to Narcissa; and 3). The son of #2, James M. Smith Jr., age 12 about 1900.

    This particular family is not listed, because they were not Cherokee tribal members. However, this is just in case this might be your lineage. You’d still need to confirm if this is “your Charles Bradshaw Smith.”

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